Masks Are Neither Effective Nor Safe: A Summary Of The Science

At this writing, there is a recent surge in widespread use by the public of facemasks when in public places, including for extended periods of time, in the United States as well as in other countries.   The public has been instructed by media and their governments that one’s use of masks, even if not sick, may prevent others from being infected with SARS-CoV-2, the infectious agent of COVID-19.

A review of the peer-reviewed medical literature examines impacts on human health, both immunological, as well as physiological.  The purpose of this paper is to examine data regarding the effectiveness of facemasks, as well as safety data.  The reason that both are examined in one paper is that for the general public as a whole, as well as for every individual, a risk-benefit analysis is necessary to guide decisions on if and when to wear a mask.

Are masks effective at preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens?

In this meta-analysis, face masks were found to have no detectable effect against transmission of viral infections. (1)  It found: “Compared to no masks, there was no reduction of influenza-like illness cases or influenza for masks in the general population, nor in healthcare workers.”

This 2020 meta-analysis found that evidence from randomized controlled trials of face masks did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility. (2)

Another recent review found that masks had no effect specifically against Covid-19, although facemask use seemed linked to, in 3 of 31 studies, “very slightly reduced” odds of developing influenza-like illness. (3)

This 2019 study of 2862 participants showed that both N95 respirators and surgical masks “resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory confirmed influenza." (4)

This 2016 meta-analysis found that both randomized controlled trials and observational studies of N95 respirators and surgical masks used by healthcare workers did not show benefit against transmission of acute respiratory infections.  It was also found that acute respiratory infection transmission “may have occurred via contamination of provided respiratory protective equipment during storage and reuse of masks and respirators throughout the workday.” (5)

A 2011 meta-analysis of 17 studies regarding masks and effect on transmission of influenza found that “none of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.” (6)  However, authors speculated that effectiveness of masks may be linked to early, consistent and correct usage.

Face mask use was likewise found to be not protective against the common cold, compared to controls without face masks among healthcare workers. (7)

Airflow around masks

Masks have been assumed to be effective in obstructing forward travel of viral particles.  Considering those positioned next to or behind a mask wearer, there have been farther transmission of virus-laden fluid particles from masked individuals than from unmasked individuals, by means of “several leakage jets, including intense backward and downwards jets that may present major hazards,” and a “potentially dangerous leakage jet of up to several meters.”  (8) All masks were thought to reduce forward airflow by 90% or more over wearing no mask.  However, Schlieren imaging showed that both surgical masks and cloth masks had farther brow jets (unfiltered upward airflow past eyebrows) than not wearing any mask at all, 182 mm and 203 mm respectively, vs none discernible with no mask.  Backward unfiltered airflow was found to be strong with all masks compared to not masking.

For both N95 and surgical masks, it was found that expelled particles from 0.03 to 1 micron were deflected around the edges of each mask, and that there was measurable penetration of particles through the filter of each mask. (9)

Penetration through masks

A study of 44 mask brands found mean 35.6% penetration (+ 34.7%).  Most medical masks had over 20% penetration, while “general masks and handkerchiefs had no protective function in terms of the aerosol filtration efficiency.”  The study found that “Medical masks, general masks, and handkerchiefs were found to provide little protection against respiratory aerosols.” (10)

It may be helpful to remember that an aerosol is a colloidal suspension of liquid or solid particles in a gas.  In respiration, the relevant aerosol is the suspension of bacterial or viral particles in inhaled or exhaled breath.

In another study, penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%. (11)

N95 respirators

Honeywell is a manufacturer of N95 respirators.  These are made with a 0.3 micron filter. (12)  N95 respirators are so named, because 95% of particles having a diameter of 0.3 microns are filtered by the mask forward of the wearer, by use of an electrostatic mechanism. Coronaviruses are approximately 0.125 microns in diameter.

This meta-analysis found that N95 respirators did not provide superior protection to facemasks against viral infections or influenza-like infections. (13)  This study did find superior protection by N95 respirators when they were fit-tested compared to surgical masks. (14)

This study found that 624 out of 714 people wearing N95 masks left visible gaps when putting on their own masks. (15)

Surgical masks

This study found that surgical masks offered no protection at all against influenza. (16) Another study found that surgical masks had about 85% penetration ratio of aerosolized inactivated influenza particles and about 90% of Staphylococcus aureus bacteria, although S aureus particles were about 6x the diameter of influenza particles. (17)

Use of masks in surgery were found to slightly increase incidence of infection over not masking in a study of 3,088 surgeries. (18)  The surgeons’ masks were found to give no protective effect to the patients.

Other studies found no difference in wound infection rates with and without surgical masks. (19) (20)

This study found that “there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination.” (21)

This study found that medical masks have a wide range of filtration efficiency, with most showing a 30% to 50% efficiency. (22)

Specifically, are surgical masks effective in stopping human transmission of coronaviruses?  Both experimental and control groups, masked and unmasked respectively, were found to “not shed detectable virus in respiratory droplets or aerosols.” (23) In that study, they “did not confirm the infectivity of coronavirus” as found in exhaled breath.

A study of aerosol penetration showed that two of the five surgical masks studied had 51% to 89% penetration of polydisperse aerosols.  (24)

In another study, that observed subjects while coughing, “neither surgical nor cotton masks effectively filtered SARS-CoV-2 during coughs by infected patients.”  And more viral particles were found on the outside than on the inside of masks tested. (25)

Cloth masks

Cloth masks were found to have low efficiency for blocking particles of 0.3 microns and smaller.  Aerosol penetration through the various cloth masks examined in this study were between 74 and 90%.  Likewise, the filtration efficiency of fabric materials was 3% to 33% (26)

Healthcare workers wearing cloth masks were found to have 13 times the risk of influenza-like illness than those wearing medical masks. (27)

This 1920 analysis of cloth mask use during the 1918 pandemic examines the failure of masks to impede or stop flu transmission at that time, and concluded that the number of layers of fabric required to prevent pathogen penetration would have required a suffocating number of layers, and could not be used for that reason, as well as the problem of leakage vents around the edges of cloth masks. (28)

Masks against Covid-19

The New England Journal of Medicine editorial on the topic of mask use versus Covid-19 assesses the matter as follows:

“We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.  Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 20 minutes).  The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal.  In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.” (29)

Are masks safe?

During walking or other exercise

Surgical mask wearers had significantly increased dyspnea after a 6-minute walk than non-mask wearers. (30)

Researchers are concerned about possible burden of facemasks during physical activity on pulmonary, circulatory and immune systems, due to oxygen reduction and air trapping reducing substantial carbon dioxide exchange.  As a result of hypercapnia, there may be cardiac overload, renal overload, and a shift to metabolic acidosis. (31)

Risks of N95 respirators

Pregnant healthcare workers were found to have a loss in volume of oxygen consumption by 13.8% compared to controls when wearing N95 respirators.  17.7% less carbon dioxide was exhaled. (32)  Patients with end-stage renal disease were studied during use of N95 respirators.  Their partial pressure of oxygen (PaO2) decreased significantly compared to controls and increased respiratory adverse effects. (33)   19% of the patients developed various degrees of hypoxemia while wearing the masks.

Healthcare workers’ N95 respirators were measured by personal bioaerosol samplers to harbor influenza virus. (34)  And 25% of healthcare workers’ facepiece respirators were found to contain influenza in an emergency department during the 2015 flu season. (35)

Risks of surgical masks

Healthcare workers’ surgical masks also were measured by personal bioaerosol samplers to harbor for influenza virus. (36)

Various respiratory pathogens were found on the outer surface of used medical masks, which could result in self-contamination.  The risk was found to be higher with longer duration of mask use. (37)

Surgical masks were also found to be a repository of bacterial contamination.  The source of the bacteria was determined to be the body surface of the surgeons, rather than the operating room environment. (38)  Given that surgeons are gowned from head to foot for surgery, this finding should be especially concerning for laypeople who wear masks.  Without the protective garb of surgeons, laypeople generally have even more exposed body surface to serve as a source for bacteria to collect on their masks.

Risks of cloth masks

Healthcare workers wearing cloth masks had significantly higher rates of influenza-like illness after four weeks of continuous on-the-job use, when compared to controls. (39)

The increased rate of infection in mask-wearers may be due to a weakening of immune function during mask use.  Surgeons have been found to have lower oxygen saturation after surgeries even as short as 30 minutes. (40)  Low oxygen induces hypoxia-inducible factor 1 alpha (HIF-1). (41)  This in turn down-regulates CD4+ T-cells.  CD4+ T-cells, in turn, are necessary for viral immunity. (42)

Weighing risks versus benefits of mask use

In the summer of 2020 the United States is experiencing a surge of popular mask use, which is frequently promoted by the media, political leaders and celebrities.  Homemade and store-bought cloth masks and surgical masks or N95 masks are being used by the public especially when entering stores and other publicly accessible buildings.  Sometimes bandanas or scarves are used.  The use of face masks, whether cloth, surgical or N95, creates a poor obstacle to aerosolized pathogens as we can see from the meta-analyses and other studies in this paper, allowing both transmission of aerosolized pathogens to others in various directions, as well as self-contamination.

It must also be considered that masks impede the necessary volume of air intake required for adequate oxygen exchange, which results in observed physiological effects that may be undesirable.  Even 6- minute walks, let alone more strenuous activity, resulted in dyspnea.  The volume of unobstructed oxygen in a typical breath is about 100 ml, used for normal physiological processes.  100 ml O2 greatly exceeds the volume of a pathogen required for transmission.

The foregoing data show that masks serve more as instruments of obstruction of normal breathing, rather than as effective barriers to pathogens. Therefore, masks should not be used by the general public, either by adults or children, and their limitations as prophylaxis against pathogens should also be considered in medical settings.

Endnotes

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  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-23 20:34:44 -0700
    This is so strange!! This just hit me. Do you folks know who wrote this article? Dr. Colleen Huber. “Nature Works Best Clinic” in Tempe, Az!! I watched her on “Cancer Can Be Killed” documentary back several years ago. That movie helped me on the quest for better health! Watch that fantastic movie, and check out what this fantastic doctor has done!!! Who did she present her personal experiences with her patients. Who? And what did they do with that information?? And look at the date of her testimony??Then you’ll appreciate a bit why so many of us DO NOT TRUST THE GOVT AND ITS TROLLS!!! Sorry, but she is a real hero! And others who have been fighter so much longer than us!!! I’m pumped! She’s on our side, exposing the darkness!!
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 15:52:14 -0700
    Love your post – so much truth and things to meditate on. Thank you so much.
  • Jeanette McKee
    commented 2020-11-23 15:46:37 -0700
    C. A. Great post! So true and I wish there were more people like you.
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-23 14:58:23 -0700
    T.F.: Myself, my wife (who has a breathing issue), and thousands of others don’t wear masks. I elect not to wear one for I know the hazards of wearing a mask. My wife CANNOT wear a mask because she has tried and her O2 starts to drop in about 30 seconds after donning a mask. Neither of us have been sick! And we have travelled all around. Our immune system can handle contact with microbes. And think of this, this is opposite world; there is even a scripture that says, paraphrase, there will come a time when that which is good becomes bad, and that which is bad becomes good. They, govt/medical tell us to social distance, wear masks, stay inside. Social distance is a joke, wearing masks lower your immunity (see article above and numerous references below), and staying inside your body cannot make vitamin D which is anti-microbial. So the guidelines they give are detrimental to our health. Why would some places take sick people and place them in confined areas with healthy people??? Why quarantine healthy people the same as sick ones? Why would these tyrants tell people to wear masks inside and even in their own car? Use your head and think.

    T.F.: if you are afraid or scared, or have a medical condition, go ahead and wear a mask. If that makes you feel good and safe, go for it. Wear it 24/7. But do not force me or my family to wear masks.

    I’m not even going to get into the PCR test. PM. gave some good info. Research why so many asymptomatic people test positive. Hint: it’s not because they have the virus but show no signs. And look at what Elon Musk blabbed what happened to him just a few weeks ago. Look that on up and tell us how could happen. Unless the PCR test is unreliable.

    This is a first step of several others coming. This is a compliance test. Next will be the unproven vaccine. This whole plandemic has another mission besides the obvious. “Watch this hand because I don’t want you to see what is going on over there.” Check out Klaus Schwabb and his statements about the “global reset” at the World Economic Forum. They are telling us what is coming while we are not watching/listening because we are too busy taking about minor things like masks and social distancing. These world “leaders” are laughing at us and how gullible we are!!! Next, they’ll be telling us we need to stand on our heads because it increases blood flow to the brain and makes us think better. Pull your head out of the sand and stand up and look around! Think!!
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-11-23 12:51:02 -0700
    Dr. JM I will tell my daughter who is nurse at a local hospital to tell the staff what you said about masks.That should get a reaction.
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 12:31:08 -0700
    On a related note: https://www.technocracy.news/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-tests-unreliable-quarantines-unlawful/
    Portuguese court rules pcr tests unreliable and quarantines unlawful TY.

    The gentleman who created the “tests” died last year of pneumonia. He actually received a Nobel prize for that, but, he said the tests were not safe, even dangerous, and said they should not be used to detect a virus. At the most, only a cold. I say, covid has not been medically identified and is only another strain of flu. The chances of dying of “covid” are 0.01 per cent.
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 12:22:30 -0700
    Thomas Frank has his opinion and the rest of us are entitled to ours. I’m not all against masks, BUT, shouldn’t it be the choice of the wearer? I don’t want to be FORCED by the gov. I elected to do what they say…. masks or anything else. Fauci wants masks to continue even after vaccination. These people do not know when to stop. Nothing is ever enough to satisfy them. In fact, they are NEVER satisfied and only happy when they are causing pain and misery to others.
  • Jeanette McKee
    commented 2020-11-23 12:20:56 -0700
    Thomas Frank, you might as well not wear a mask either because we would both have the exact same odds of contracting Sars-COV-2.
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-11-23 12:18:04 -0700
    TM. Maybe we should go together to a Covid-19 ward with me wearing a n-95 mask and you nothing.
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-23 12:12:11 -0700
    Oh no! Not the same old thing about Japan. I’m not going the repeat the same old discussion! Use new, current data, T.F. Watch that YT video I posted from Dr. Paul. Latest info. DO NOT USE CASE LOADS, AS YOU INCREASE TESTING, RATES HAVE TO GO UP. AND MONETARY INCENTIVE FOR STATES TO INCREASE TESTING. It’s free…..but comes with strings attached to individual! And benefits the states. Not the individual!
  • Tim McMurphy
    commented 2020-11-23 11:29:06 -0700
    Ah Thomas Frank is back with his “Japan, Japan, Japan” myopic view which has been clearly refuted. Don’t you have anything else? Just the same old one trick pony.

    TF: “IF” Masks Work It Is Clearly Early vs Late Adoption

    It could explain some of the anomalies like Mexico having a higher compliance of mask wearing than Japan but way worse results. It also would mean that it’s a moot point for everyone now.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Association_of_country-wide_coronavirus_mortality_with_demographics_testing_lockdowns_and_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_June_15_2020

    Do check out “Figure 1” on page 18/19.

    Cheers
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-11-23 11:18:45 -0700
    Masks do work? Look at Japan who has always been a mask wearing country. I think they would have stopped doing it if it had no results. There covid deaths are the same as my state .Pop. Japan 174 million pop. Of my state 7 million
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 09:39:57 -0700
    You are so kind. I’m really quite healthy for my age. Even go to the gym 4 times a week. Avoid the doctor. Not on any prescriptions. But this mask thing is so dangerous. I don’t wear one now at all. No exceptions. Since I got the card in my wallet, no one questions me, except the health care doctors. (eye, ear, nose). I have never been tested. I know the test is phony. https://www.citizensforfreespeech.org/donate4
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-23 09:34:32 -0700
    P.M: make sure you try to relax. Prayer will help!! Make sure you deep breathe (get O2 and it will help you relax). Stay positive, eat a low carb diet, with lots of veggies and fruits/nuts. Diet means everything. And take vitamin supplements. Get outside and do some walking as that helps your whole body. And viruses have a difficult surviving outdoors, especially when exposed to sunlight. And your body makes vit D (anti-microbial) when your skin is exposed to sunlight. And HAVE NO FEAR!!! Fear is the horrible for your body! And you will have encouragement from us!!!! We will help you, my friend!!
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-23 09:25:44 -0700
    Great idea, P.M.!! And T. M., thank you for the references. Have seen that before!! Here’s an interesting video from Ron Paul. Pay attention to the graphs starting about the 10 min mark. Very interesting. (still on YT- not censored, yet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PAwc8nlE_Q
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 09:15:50 -0700
    I’d love to help someone do this. I’m not computer literate at age 77 so I have no ideas where to start or carry on. But I know from experience that masks are not good. Recently I had a panic attack from all this nonsense and was in bed for 3 days with depression. I thought I was having a heart attack. I call the mask wearers “lemmings”. I don’t know how or where we could post such a warning. The businesses would probably tear them down. The ones that are open are terrified to get shut down. The health care businesses are the worst. I’ll pray for an answer.
  • Tim McMurphy
    commented 2020-11-23 08:39:11 -0700
    Good idea Pene. If you do make sure to include the fact that cloth masks are potentially infectious to the wearer. See if that gets their attention.

    Cloth masks don’t work and are potentially infectious

    https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

    “This study is the first RCT (Randomized Control Trial) of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection.” and “Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.”

    And definitely include the graph from “Figure 1” on page 18/19. this study on “Masks Early vs Late Adoption”

    If masks work it is clearly early adoption (first month). After 2 months there is no difference between masks and no masks.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Association_of_country-wide_coronavirus_mortality_with_demographics_testing_lockdowns_and_public_wearing_of_masks_Update_June_15_2020
  • Pene Murdoch
    commented 2020-11-23 07:48:32 -0700
    Perhaps “we the people” could start posting “the dangers of wearing masks” next to the you must wear a mask signs. Equal rights – right?
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-11-02 08:30:29 -0700
    Masks are ineffective: (you won’t find this on YT, free speech is blocked)
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aniUhkYIydb/
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-09-25 18:04:00 -0700
    C.A. I take vitamins and believe in them but to say super large doses have effects like you are talking about have never been proven with long term studies and are only anecdotal at best.Its common sense that the body can only assimilate so much at a time so taking super large doses only gives you the most expense urine and feces in town.
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-09-25 14:33:14 -0700
    T.F.: We were watching Dr. John Bergman about “Chronic Disease” and he talks about polio in Africa and the polio vaccine starting just before the 28 minute mark. Included for your convenience; (he gives his references to govt documents too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDHXFhMSqY0
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-09-24 21:20:28 -0700
    T.M., You are correct with addition of vit D (another anti-microbial). I personally take 5-7g vit C (spread throughout the day), 2-4k units vit D, and 500mg vit E (mixed tropherols), all anti-microbial. And other supplements. Check out Andrew Saul’s website: www.doctoryourself.com for a wealth of info. He also in on the board of orthomolecular.org.

    T.F., You are correct in Dr. Salk made the polio vaccine shot, Dr. Sabin made the oral polio vaccine. Their is some debate on polio’s origins and the extent of “cure”. Take a look at the latest polio outbreaks in Africa. Contact the polio vaccine with the vit C cures with Dr. Klenner. He has many detailed papers on the positive outcomes on vit C against all sorts of disease such as polio, tetanus, gangrene, and many other manifestations. Riordan Clinic in Kansas has tremendous success in a list of diseases using large dose IV Vit C. Oral dose for prevention, IV for disease manifestation treatment.
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-09-24 18:56:53 -0700
    I think Dr. Salk cured polio
  • Tim McMurphy
    commented 2020-09-24 18:47:07 -0700
    " Chuck Andreas: Additional cure is mega dose vit C via IV. "
    I heard about it but haven’t had time to track down the details yet. I wouldn’t surprise me, in fact I would be surprised if it didn’t work given Dr Klenner’s work in the late 40’s and 50’s curing polio and measles with it.

    Dr Levy has a 0.1% H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) + saline solution protocol done with a nebulizer. I’m giving that one a try as it is getting close to influenza season. It could be an interesting addition to the vitamin D (which also helps against all viral infections). Along with quercetin, EGCG and zinc.
  • Chuck Andreas
    commented 2020-09-22 06:44:45 -0700
    In order to understand why conspiracy theories abound, one needs to understand it’s underpinnings, the Hegelian Dialectic. Basically, you create a problem, provide a solution, to achieve an end result. “SmackTalkingEer” gives an excellent short read on how HD is used today. https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/.
    Most people don’t notice it in play. That’s why it’s a powerful tool used by many people/govt.

    And to fully understand what is happening in our world, we need to know about “false flags”, as it is also used together w/HD. A false flag is exactly what it says; an entity signals that it is common/friend of another entity, but upon getting closer together, the first reveals their real position (as an enemy) by their actions. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/false-flag gives definition a some simple examples in history. For more details and examples, start here: https://www.falseflag.info/ft-sumter/

    Regarding Pearl Harbor, we now know FDR not only had advance knowledge of the coming attack, https://www.independent.org/issues/article.asp?id=408, but may have allowed it to bring the USA into war with Japan. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pearl-Harbor-and-the-back-door-to-war-theory-1688287

    Another example of a conspiracy, documents now declassified on the “Gulf of Tonkin Incident”, was a false flag event. https://allthatsinteresting.com/gulf-of-tonkin

    These are just a tiny bit of proof that conspiracy “theories” are only theories until proven true. Then they are just conspiracies to do some event for benefit of a few, and detriment to others. Do your own research. There are many, many more recent examples too, of both false flags, and conspiracies.

    Sadly, we, the common people, receive the detrimental effects of the few, like disease and death. This is why we need to educate ourselves, and help each other learn about this, and how to avoid becoming a victim, as best as we can. A fur trapper carefully conceals his trap from the animal he is trapping, and uses all sorts of methods like bushes and/or scents, and bait. He may even place a distraction on the side. If we see or detect a trap in our lives, we should point out to others the snare or bait that is used. And knowledge is a tool to detect traps.I truly believe we are here to help each other. I WANT AND PRAY THE BEST FOR EVERYONE! If my efforts, like on this platform, help one individual to avoid the myriad of traps around our world, I’m happy!! Wake up, and educate yourself. Learn.
  • E K
    commented 2020-09-21 21:43:02 -0700
    B.F. and C.A. Thank you for the excellent posts.

    I appreciate your work and your efforts. You have presented good cases with information and links to support your claim. There are so many conspiracies that publishers will never run out of material to print. Thanks for being generous with your time and information.

    Those who are unwilling to learn are big time wasters.
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-09-21 21:19:18 -0700
    The Japanese just wanted to weaken or possibly destroy Americas foothold in the Pacific.Roosevelt would never had used the theory your talking about because they can’t control the outcome. Again conspiracy theories are intriguing that’s why there so popular now.
  • Thomas Frank
    commented 2020-09-21 20:59:23 -0700
    Conspiracy theories always come to light when really big news events happen. They are kind of intriguing to think about but in almost all cases are debunked.
  • Brian Farmer
    commented 2020-09-21 20:57:37 -0700
    TF: The Arizona Memorial is proof. If the attack on Pearl Harbor was not the result of a conspiracy, then why was it not reported before it happened?
  • Brian Farmer
    commented 2020-09-21 20:57:37 -0700
    TF: The Arizona Memorial is proof. If the attack on Pearl Harbor was not the result of a conspiracy, then why was it not reported before it happened?